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May. 7th, 2020 09:35 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
puddlesoverdiosHello, this is Erina. I am indisposed at this time. Please leave your message and I will return it. Thank you.
[There is distinct Pachirisu squeaking.]
No, Peda, you may not leave a message.
[There is distinct Pachirisu squeaking.]
No, Peda, you may not leave a message.
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Date: 2020-06-17 04:13 pm (UTC)And certainly, we've just taken a break from travel for the meantime, so I have plenty of time to answer.
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Date: 2020-06-17 04:16 pm (UTC)So, like, just outta curiosity were marriage customs and stuff like... different in your time? I assume the answer's yes given it ain't a huge deal in my time anymore. Or, well, doesn't have to be a huge deal.
Asking for no reason in particular.
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Date: 2020-06-17 04:28 pm (UTC)Well, I am not sure what the customs are like now, but there were certain things one needed to follow for it to not be over-gossiped about. Typically, in order to get to marriage proper, one would have a long courtship. They would go on (chaperoned) walks. Spend time together at social events, and the like. Then once they were engaged, they were able to spend time more privately together, but the suitor would still need to leave before dark, just to keep reputations spotless.
A date would be decided upon for the wedding day, but in the time before that, one would have their banns read during Sunday several weeks before that, in the event that someone disagreed with the match (though it would be very uncouth).
Afterwards, they would get married.
Allow me to say, however, that Jonathan did very, very, very little of that, and had it not been for his honest disposition, I believe my father would have shot him.
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Date: 2020-06-17 04:32 pm (UTC)I think I'd have already blown that whole thing, given, uh. You know. Victory Road. And the tent situation. Alone. In a cave. Whatever, details.
What's a "banns", tho? Never... heard that term in my life?
WAIT.
WHAT.
SERIOUSLY?
Wouldn't have expected pure as snow Jonathan freaking Joestar to buck traditions like that, huh.
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Date: 2020-06-17 05:05 pm (UTC)Well, banns. A notice that gets read out. Jonathan paid a pretty penny to have them read in a month. It only needs to be three successive Sundays, but usually over the course of three months. Ours were read over a course of three weeks, so goodness knows what they thought of me, or him.
And yes, he returned from his trip after defeating that man
[Someone prefers not even to refer to him by name.]
recovered, and in that time we seemed to skip much of normal courtship. I didn't mind - however much my family did - as I had made up my mind to marry him well before that. But it was very much a whirlwind to be engaged at the start of January and wed in February.
Joestars, it seems, can be especially single-minded about their goals.
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Date: 2020-06-17 05:11 pm (UTC)Wait, was this a church thing, then? Because lmfao, that would be exactly why I've never heard the word. Churches don't mean shit to anyone unless they're part of 'em. But they ain't the end all be all of life.
You say that and yet he didn't, uh, actually do that whole defeating thing. Just sayin'.
lmfao, I guess a lot of this just stayed in the family. Because, as far as I know, doing things pretty whirlwind runs in the family. At least as far as I'm aware.
I'm being good over here, okay. Trying to, you know, nooooot be single-minded about shit? It's a lot of effort.
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Date: 2020-06-17 05:18 pm (UTC)Yes, but as he explained it, he thought he had at the time, thus.
Well, the more things change, the more they stay the same, I see! And that I understand. Well, what is it you are trying to do properly? Perhaps I can at the very least help with that,
JollyJolyne.[Going to edit that message just quickly...]
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Date: 2020-06-17 06:30 pm (UTC)Can't say I exactly blame him for thinking that, but whatever, it was solved later. After a lot of bullshit, from what little I know, but solved none-the-less.
NOTHING, JUST CURIOUS QUESTION.
[She's a lying liar who lies. Really badly at that.]
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Date: 2020-06-17 07:09 pm (UTC)It is very curious.
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Date: 2020-06-17 07:11 pm (UTC)Totally no reason.
[This is stupid. She's stupid. It's fine.]
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Date: 2020-06-17 07:14 pm (UTC)No reason, then. If you would like, in the future, and have another random thought about this, then I am happy to answer your questions.
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Date: 2020-06-17 07:16 pm (UTC)If I tell you, you'll keep this a secret, right? 'Cause, like, totally not set in stone and totally way, way in the future, okay?
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Date: 2020-06-17 07:21 pm (UTC)[Text]
Date: 2020-06-17 07:25 pm (UTC)Like I said, way, way in the future. But of course I got time to actually think on things, so of course my mind wanders way the fuck off.
I'm a fucking mess, aren't I? God.
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Date: 2020-06-17 08:46 pm (UTC)Even if it may be far off in the future, it's still nice to think about. Besides, I imagine you are no more "a mess" as you so vividly put it as Jonathan was thinking the same thing. (Though, I've never asked him what his impetus was. When he chose to charge through.)
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Date: 2020-06-17 08:57 pm (UTC)I dunno, it all sounds so ridiculous like I'm taking everything too fast and trying to keep myself from doing that. Like I don't wanna scare her off or something, so I'm having to chill my heels and all that.
Like, it's just...
[She leaves that there for the longest while before responding again.]
Having someone that seems so genuine about everything is refreshing and I don't know how exactly to deal with it? Does that even make sense?
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Date: 2020-06-17 11:05 pm (UTC)I do not know how it feels for you, of course, but I know that when one measures themselves against the object of their affections, they may find themselves wanting. The very most important thing to remember is that as much as you've chosen them, so have they chosen you.
I would caution, of course, running to headlong into things, but so long as you are both happy and satisfied with the arrangement of things, is that not the important thing to keep in mind?
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Date: 2020-06-17 11:10 pm (UTC)So someone that actually doesn't seem to have some Real Concerning Issues is just. Absolutely wild to me? Like I'm just kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop and show that, no, no you still suck at this. A lot.
I GUESS THAT IS. It's just a whole lot of relearning stuff and knowing that I don't have to rush myself anymore.
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Date: 2020-06-17 11:24 pm (UTC)JollyJolyne. That is quite a bit more than many people - men or women - can say the same for.Though to be fair, a woman making a poor choice runs a risk in losing her honor in my era. At least here, if you have made a poor choice, you will have Jonathan and myself to lean on, and any of your friends. Is that not what family is for? Even family as far-flung as we are?
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Date: 2020-06-17 11:27 pm (UTC)"Losing her honor"? Spell that one out for me, go ahead.
I mean, it's more than I really got back home, so I'll take it. But hopefully it won't... come to that? I don't think it'll come to that, anyway.
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Date: 2020-06-18 02:45 am (UTC)And yes, her honor. It's not simply her hymen, but her place in society. Women would sometimes be completely removed from socialization because of indiscretions.
[If anyone forgot that Erina was a nurse, well...]
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Date: 2020-06-18 02:47 am (UTC)God, pretty sure I'd be in trouble so many times over by this point. Even now.
But noted.
It's hilarious imagining your saying hymen and I don't know why.
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Date: 2020-06-18 02:58 am (UTC)Is it... my accent, perhaps?
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Date: 2020-06-18 02:59 am (UTC)But yeah, I... guess it wouldn't be too bad of a thing to speculate on at least, huh?